ObiWanKenobi2016 wrote:I don't think TLj was a good movie, even ignoring the inconsistencies with TFA and it's place as part of a wider franchise. The 40 minute casino sub plot that led to nothing was a waste of time. The poorly copied plot device of chasing starships but being unable to catch them doesn't work in the Star Wars universe where only v small ships don't have hyperdrives. Killing off the principal villain so easily, and in the middle of the movie is a poor idea, badly executed. Mary Poppins Leia, Mary Sue Rey, the space horses fiasco, Holdo not telling Poe and others of her plan, etc. These are all critical failings in the story telling of that movie.
As I've said elsewhere, I don't think TLJ will maintain it's critical favour over time. Thwarted expectations and unexpected deaths were a v 2017 critical phenomenon, due to the popularity of Game of Thrones which had several of them. Game of Thrones however, did them in a story told over multiple episodes and multiple seasons. A 2 hour (or 2 hour 30) movie is a very different medium in which to tell a story. It just doesn't work in that context.
And re the OTTNT wrote:And yes, that the only chance of giving the original cast a good sendoff was squandered hurts like hell and pisses me off.
Absolutely. Leia was deified, Han was demeaned and Luke Skywalker was used to get the audience interested in posters and trailers, and then either not shown or character assassinated in a catastrophic fashion.
I have no doubt that the reason they struggled to do anything with Luke Skywalker was that he was hard to write for. He was supposed to be the all powerful jedi, and according to Lucas, the most powerful Jedi there ever has been or will be. The script-writing challenge with him in a story is that if he's not killed off, why don't the other characters go to him, get him to take on the First Order / Snoke and win the battle for them (and yet, that's exactly what they did with Rey). However, this same problem is dealt with in the Marvel franchise in movie after movie, whether it be Thor (a demi-god), the Hulk, Ironman, Spider-Man, and in the DC franchise with Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, and the list goes on and on and on.
The Rian Johnson solution was lazy writing and grated harshly with all that we knew of that character (the main character) in the OT.
... physical object teleportation through force skype.
TKTB51 wrote:I don't think, please correct me, but I don't think anyone's ever seen Super Rey and Bad Wolf Rose Tyler in the same place, at the same time.
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