GSoW is Live!

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TKTB51
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Re: GSoW is Live!

Post#201 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:22 am

Our Durasteel ranked Imp squad matched in about 5 seconds on Friday morning.

The thread "why don't Imp squads like to war" is wrong. The problem is not enough lower level reb squads in the queue.
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CooIguy
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Re: GSoW is Live!

Post#202 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:08 pm

I would pay $100 to see a real life pic of SPOCK. LOL.


DARKSIDEPLAYER
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Re: GSoW is Live!

Post#203 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:10 pm

CooIguy wrote:I would pay $100 to see a real life pic of SPOCK. LOL.

OMFG, bro, this made me laugh so fucking hard. HAHAHAHA so true, right?


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lukeskywalker
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Re: GSoW is Live!

Post#204 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:28 am

Spock's pretty cool, so that's my two cents. I jumped into an Empire squad with my two bases that I had parked in a private squad. We just got matched after a 24 hour wait time. The squad that I joined to help is a Carbonite League squad at best, with a lot of level 2's and 3's. Matchup is surprisingly close. I thought we might be pushed up against a higher level squad, but matchmaking did not appear to expand the search and waited until we got a proper matchup. The wait time mirrored the gsow.net queue times. Most of the day, the match times were running about 4 hours or so, but maxed out at 24 hours when our squad hit the queue. I did warn our Leader. lol. Our squad won't show up until after our first war is completed, but I will be interested in seeing our stats after the war (squad base scores and total medals) vs. theirs.

On the rebel side, the new data helped in setting up a lineup that would allow us to get our lower level rebel players into a fair war matchup. Since the Durasteel and Carbonite leagues seem to be where most of the activity is at, or at least where there's a shortage of matchups, we set up a lineup similar to those in that profile. We had to give up some edge on the base score, with a war base score of 1342 vs 1921 for our opponent, since we have a higher medal count. That said, I think it's going to be a good war for our level 4's through 7's. They can actually attack bases vs. just helping with outposts. A welcome change, and made possible by the understanding of the underlying war queue population stats. Having a squad list, and being able to examine the squad rosters, helped a lot. Again, Kudos to the gsow.net gang.
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Re: GSoW is Live!

Post#205 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:17 pm

CooIguy wrote:I would pay $100 to see a real life pic of SPOCK. LOL.

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lukeskywalker
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Re: GSoW is Live!

Post#206 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:42 pm

Here's our current rebel squad matchup and the previous war's matchup. In both instances, the war queues only had Durasteel, Carbonite, and Sarlacc Pit squads on the Imperial side. I realize those designations are gsow.net driven while matchmaking is driven by the swc algorithm. That said, I did notice by searching the squad rosters, that the squads falling into the gsow.net categories, had more similarities than differences. The current war listed first below, was an instant match. The opponent was not showing in the gsow.net war queue, so they were not waiting long. This means the matchmaking algo thinks this is a fair match worthy of an instant match. I suspect the swc matchmaking algo is much more open with the higher level squads. Those falling into the UC and Obsidian leagues. Both squads are in the Obsidian league. We have a few Prestige players we left off the war squad. The current war is a Tat war, so there's a good chance it's a 45-45 tie. I hate Tako and Tat wars, since those op's are just too op. Pun intended.

Our previous opponent was in the Durasteel league. Took a few hours to match, so the matchmaking algo was a bit more stringent, at least on the surface. As a side note, the Imperial squad that I joined up with is unranked. Carbonite at best, and took 24 hours to match with a rebel squad. Fairly even matchup on paper, but their squad had more experience and it showed.

Extremely small sample size, but it does seem to match up with prior experiences. The only difference is it's now possible to see why it's happening and it may be possible to set up fairer matchups down the road. We did win the prior war 45-8, so it goes to show that HQ levels alone are not a gauge for war success.


OUR SQUAD ........................... OPPONENT
HQ BASE SCORE MEDALS HQ BASE SCORE MEDALS
11 3266 .............41195 11 3312 ..............65647
10 2938 .............28791 11 3292 ..............94862
10 2842 .............28792 11 3266 ..............88430
10 2794 .............31867 11 3253 ..............53637
9 2537 ..............9898 11 3252 ..............43484
10 2482 .............14346 11 3245 ..............25548
10 2404 .............34685 11 3241 ..............64560
9 2320 ..............3050 11 3044 ..............25030
8 1812 ..............6987 11 3044 ..............88637
7 1679 .............11056 11 3003 ...............8382
7 1546 ..............5610 10 2916 ............114542
9 1236 .............29839 10 2750 ..............10795
7 771 .............13134 10 2646 ...............9499
9 724 .............34516 9 2421 ...............5452
5 353 ................717 9 2347 ...............6238

8.7 29704...... 294483 10.5 45032...... 704743

OUR SQUAD ....................... OPPONENT
HQ BASE SCORE MEDALS HQ BASE SCORE MEDALS
10 2482 .............14354 11 3321 .............97350
10 2404 .............34685 11 3297 .............46377
9 2537 ..............9898 11 3286 .............25992
9 2320 ..............3050 11 3284 ..............8322
9 724 .............34516 11 2841 .............14800
8 1812 ..............6987 10 2900 ..............8020
7 1679 .............11056 10 2884 .............14144
7 1546 ..............5660 10 2821 ..............7030
7 884 .............15816 10 2809 .............33750
7 771 .............13134 10 2770 ..............1548
6 1336 .............16395 9 2593 ..............7005
6 1300 ..............2301 9 2554 ..............7755
5 745 ...............274 9 2522 .............12438
5 353 ...............717 8 2019 ..............8175
4 581 .................27 7 1478 ..............3781

7.3 21474...... 168870 9.8 41379...... 296487
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lukeskywalker
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TKTB51
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Re: GSoW is Live!

Post#207 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:20 pm

earlier today, our Imp squad pushed the button for a matchup.

range of level 6 through 11 bases.

we were matched in 5 seconds with a Reb squad with 14 Prestige level bases and one level 9 base.

This makes it really difficult to even give a FUCK about using any of our attacks.
Player: TK-TB51 (leader)
Squad: DarkLords
Level 50 with all maxed out perks
Imperial (like you didn't know that already)

Founder of MEGA - "Make the Empire Great Again".

www.darklords.info (under construction)


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lukeskywalker
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Re: GSoW is Live!

Post#208 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:26 pm

TKTB51 wrote:earlier today, our Imp squad pushed the button for a matchup.

range of level 6 through 11 bases.

we were matched in 5 seconds with a Reb squad with 14 Prestige level bases and one level 9 base.

This makes it really difficult to even give a FUCK about using any of our attacks.


TK,

Check their war record and member stats on gsow.net first. That's a better indicator of squad strength. Been running into a lot of "Prestige" squads that are glorified level 8's at best, in terms of skills, base layouts and sc decisions. Can't believe how many single shield or uncovered sc's there still are in wars. One of them couldn't even take down a level 8 mini with sc troops. The number of legit Prestige squads is quite small. Also keep in mind, as long as you have 6 core players level 9 through Prestige, you can score 45 as long as Takodana or Tatooine is in play. Those outposts are so op, they are mismatch neutralizers. Without Tako or Tat it's tougher, but still doable. You would need to coordinate attacks with one op taker and two if you can.

You are a vet, so you probably already checked, but just thought I would mention it for the benefit of others.
lukeskywalker
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We are always looking for active players. We have a squad of 20+ members, and we war at least once a week. We have maxed out our Perks. We like helping new players, so all players are welcome!


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lukeskywalker
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Re: GSoW is Live!

Post#209 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:56 pm

Looking at the top 5 wait times in the queue now, for each faction. The rebel squads waiting for 6 to 10 hours have an average HQ level of 9 to 10, with base scores in the 2400 to 2900 range. The one exception has an average HQ level of just over 6, but that's deceptive, since their war roster is 11 level 10's and Prestige and the rest of the squad is level 2's through 6, skewing the squad stats. For all intents, they fit the initial profile. The Imperial squads waiting for 6 to 10 hours have average HQ levels of 5 to 6, and average base scores of 900 to just over 1000. Big disconnect in the squad makeups. There's not a huge difference in squads entering matchmaking given the total player population. Total of 70 Empire and 62 Rebel squads in waiting. The disconnect is clearly HQ level, average base scores and medal counts of the lineups submitted for wars.

Most of us are already aware of the regional differences in faction selection. It might be other demographic issues causing the squad makeup differences. I don't know if most squads can adjust their war lineups significantly, but to the extent that they can, they might find a match faster if they adjust according to who's in the pipeline.
lukeskywalker
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Squad: onewiththeforce
Squad Level: 50

We are always looking for active players. We have a squad of 20+ members, and we war at least once a week. We have maxed out our Perks. We like helping new players, so all players are welcome!


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TKTB51
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Re: GSoW is Live!

Post#210 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:29 pm

Tako is in play, so ... it's a coin flip
Player: TK-TB51 (leader)
Squad: DarkLords
Level 50 with all maxed out perks
Imperial (like you didn't know that already)

Founder of MEGA - "Make the Empire Great Again".

www.darklords.info (under construction)


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