Midge wrote:It isn't making much money at all. They sold it in a RIGHTS deal as a throw-in. Mostly because they didn't want it anymore.
It probably makes some, but revenue is down 500% from the same time last year.
But anyways ... whatever ... keep bashing on people for paying money and companies for trying to make money.
Nobody argues that the bugs aren't annoying. Just think you coming on here whining about people spending THEIR money on a game with bugs YOU don't like is ridiculous.
There is obviously nowhere this discussion can go where you will make any sense in a response.
I will point out that the only one here who is directly bashing anyone (so far), is you. I ignored it in your previous post, in order to have a normal talk.
But you're not even making sense anymore for the most part and aren't even responding to the points made in a proper post.
You're the one making claims but are failing to back them up and when called out upon them you throw a temper tantrum.
For example, you say that the game isn't trying to rip you off, but when asked to back up that statement when presented with several ingame deals you quickly resort to attacking me.
It's like having a talk with Bolsonaro or Trump.
You may think that ending a discussion with someone by screaming at them and stomping your foot about how wrong they are without any type of argument behind it is a good way to communicate, but I disagree with that. So let me respond to your post anyway:
You do realize you're not making any sense with the first thing you're saying right?
Disney, the mega corporation who has closed multiple game studios (Avalanche, Lucasarts) and games (Tiny Death Star, Disney Infinity, that one marvel game a few months back) because they weren't profitable enough was keeping StarWars Commander around despite not wanting it anymore and not making money from it. Does that sound like it makes sense?
I'm starting to think this game has a lot of people with a lot of disposable income they're willing to throw at the game. Especially considering the amount of gold I'm already seeing every skip.
I'm not privvy to the details of the deal so I can't judge what the terms were. But considering SWCommander is still around, it probably made enough profit to keep around and even sell. Otherwise it would've been easier/cheaper to just close it and license out the Starwars name.
Yes, revenue is down. This is a logical consequence from when I said that the player base is shrinking. It's good to see that we agree here.
Now revenue may be down, but if the net profits (the words I used at the end) are still enough then it'll stick around. Considering what they're investing (just a few programmers) the profit margin is/was probably very healthy on this game.
I'm not one of the guys complaining about bugs, I only complain about the GR. I just kinda laugh at the bugs, because for whatever reason I hardly ever encounter them. I mention them because there are plenty of people who complain about them and I figured you'd relate more to what I was saying by mentioning them. My mistake because instead you think I was complaining about them.
I know my point seems hard to understand.
But it's simple. What I really dislike is hypocrisy and stupidity.
People blame the Devs for greed and for not fixing bugs. Some of those people are paying to get crystals or frags. And then there are people thanking the whales for spending money. Those sub groups of people have no right at all to complain because they're not making it lucrative to fix anything. Like I keep saying, why spend time and resources when there's easy money in making a reskin and selling the frags?
I was recently playing a different game, which had Gacha elements and the same hypocrisy really got on my nerves there. People complaining about bad droprates, but still buying every deal that was thrown their way (often even multiple times). I'm like, what are you doing?! Why should they change anything if you keep giving them money!
I had originally decided I was never going to pay for SWCommander when I couldn't multi select walls and upgrade a section. (something most other strategy games offer) That was such a blatant getting in the way of the player to get them to pay that I decided this game was never going to be worth paying for.
Then after a long time I was really enjoying myself and decided I'd still throw some cash their way (did you know buying via Facebook is cheaper than via Iphone? I researched it to get the best deal, I like good deals), but then the GR debacle happened and I decided that I wouldn't spend until they properly fix that. They haven't yet. Thanks to the loaded dev bases I'm currently enjoying myself again, but as long as the GR/Jet issue isn't fixed I'm not spending.
It's not greed on the end of the devs, it's good business. Offer a bad deal and if they bite, offer a worse deal to see if they bite again. And like you yourself said:
midge wrote:If they charge 10 times as much for prestige units, they can get 1/8th of the people willing to spend and they are in the black. They certainly WANT money for you, and it sounds like they will get it by you leaving on Rax at Level 10.
Really, the only response you can give, but don't want to give is: "Yes, you are right. The game is filled with bad deals and bugs which are there because people are paying for bad deals and bugs. I still like the game though."
Which is fine, I like the game as well. Warts and all, but I have no illusions about why the warts are there and why they'll never be resolved and why they'll no doubt introduce more warts at some point. My only goal is to point out to people (who are somehow missing the obvious) why things are as they are and what they need to do to change things.
We'll see what Zynga brings.