NEW STRUCTURE / UNIT - Strix Beacon - Discussion Topic

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DesertPyramid
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Re: NEW STRUCTURE / UNIT - Strix Beacon - Discussion Topic

Post#71 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:35 pm

Hate to ask, but that 14yrs was for each type of rancor and not all of them, right? Or did you assume best case and multiple UC’s possible for all types in parallel?

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Re: NEW STRUCTURE / UNIT - Strix Beacon - Discussion Topic

Post#72 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:50 pm

DesertPyramid wrote:Hate to ask, but that 14yrs was for each type of rancor and not all of them, right? Or did you assume best case and multiple UC’s possible for all types in parallel?

... just contributing to the lunacy.

:arrow: ANSWER: Yes and presumes that you get 6 UC's for each Week there is a Rancor Conflict.
 
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Re: NEW STRUCTURE / UNIT - Strix Beacon - Discussion Topic

Post#73 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:34 pm

Question:
Which Creature is in the strix beacon in your warbase? The one which is in the beacon at the start of the war? Or dose it change every time you change it in your normal base?


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Re: NEW STRUCTURE / UNIT - Strix Beacon - Discussion Topic

Post#74 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:40 pm

Schruaf wrote:Question:
Which Creature is in the strix beacon in your warbase? The one which is in the beacon at the start of the war? Or dose it change every time you change it in your normal base?

ANSWER: The one that was "active" when War Started is presumed. If you change it during War it might change on your War Base but that would require "testing" which is difficult to do.

Given that currently the SBT is mostly just a minor "speed bump" in War Attacks I don't think it matters much.
 
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Re: NEW STRUCTURE / UNIT - Strix Beacon - Discussion Topic

Post#75 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:46 pm

Will Rage Rancor unlock be available for Strix Beacon even though it has a greater troop count?
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Re: NEW STRUCTURE / UNIT - Strix Beacon - Discussion Topic

Post#76 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:51 pm

Ghostie wrote:Will Rage Rancor unlock be available for Strix Beacon even though it has a greater troop count?

Ghostie - Keep in mind that you are dealing with 2 Different Units each with DIFFERENT STATS.

  1. Rage Rancor Creature (SBT Unit)
  2. Rage Rancor HQ Sample
The Strix Beacon Trap (SBT) does not use Unit Capacity (UC) and is where you use Creatures.

The Troop Transport does use Unit Capacity (UC) and is where you would use HQ Samples.

Hope that answers your question...
 
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Re: NEW STRUCTURE / UNIT - Strix Beacon - Discussion Topic

Post#77 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:43 pm

DeathStriker wrote:HOW LONG TO UPGRADE RANCOR CREATURES? **Updated**

FOR REVIEW (This Is What We Know):

Conflicts:

  • Ultra Chrome = 32 Frags (per Rancor)
  • Obsidian = 16 Frags (per Rancor)
  • Bronzium 1 = 16 Frags (per Rancor)
  • Bronzium II = 8 Frags (per Rancor)
Frags Needed Per Level For Each Rancor Creature:

    Level. Frags Needed
    1. 32
    2. 60
    3. 90
    4. 130
    5. 180
    6. 240
    7. 310
    8. 400
    9. 520
    10. 680
    TOTAL: 2642 Frags in all or put another way... 83 UCL Crates.
TIME NEEDED TO UNLOCK and FULLY UPGRADE EACH RANCOR CREATURE:

    Currently each Rancor Creature is featured in a one Week Long Conflict on 3 Planets. With this being the case it would take 28 Weeks or put another way 7 Months.

    :arrow: Of Special Note is that Krayt Dragons which are featured in two individual Week Long Conflicts on all 6 Planets. With this being the case for the Krayt Dragon only it would take 14 Weeks or put another way 4 Months.
BUT WAIT... THERE IS MORE...

    Zygna is not doing Weekly Back-to-Back Conflicts just for Rancor Creatures. We now know the best we can hope for as illustrated by the timing (shown here and here) of the last 2 Rancor Conflicts that we have seen so far, is for a Semi-Annual Event featuring Rancor Creatures for 2 Weeks, or put another way, 4 Weeks of Rancor Conflicts per Year.
AND SO... the more "realistic" time to Unlock and fully Upgrade one Rancor Creature...

    Hmmm... Let me see... :roll:
    ... Carry the 1...
    ... multiply by Lunacy...
    ... divide result by the factor of Insanity... :lol:

THE ANSWER IS... 14 Years - for Rancors, and 7 Years - for Krayt Dragon (if the "pattern" holds) - MINIMUM** :o :shock:

AND I ONCE AGAIN ASK... ARE RANCOR CONFLICTS worth grinding for?

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Re: NEW STRUCTURE / UNIT - Strix Beacon - Discussion Topic

Post#78 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:55 pm

DeathStriker wrote:
Ghostie wrote:Will Rage Rancor unlock be available for Strix Beacon even though it has a greater troop count?

Ghostie - Keep in mind that you are dealing with 2 Different Units each with DIFFERENT STATS.

  1. Rage Rancor Creature (SBT Unit)
  2. Rage Rancor HQ Sample
The Strix Beacon Trap (SBT) does not use Unit Capacity (UC) and is where you use Creatures.

The Troop Transport does use Unit Capacity (UC) and is where you would use HQ Samples.

Hope that answers your question...

I wasn't grasping the concept that the Strix Beacon doesn't use troop count.

Good to know......

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Re: NEW STRUCTURE / UNIT - Strix Beacon - Discussion Topic

Post#79 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:40 pm

I wonder if they creatures become more of a menace as they level up...we may never know since it takes over 2,000 frags to do so. They are only a speed bump on defense, but I do find the Ranocrs kind of useful for attacks if there is that pesky droid hut or banner hiding in the corner that you need to wipe out for three stars and you are getting short on time. Otherwise not that useful, unless they are extremely tough at higher levels.

As a question of curiosity, does anyone know if the Krayt Dragons encountered on a dev base are max level? I would assume so since all buildings/turrets/traps for a dev base are lvl 10/11, but would like a definite answer.


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Re: NEW STRUCTURE / UNIT - Strix Beacon - Discussion Topic

Post#80 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:07 am

DeathStriker wrote:HOW LONG TO UPGRADE RANCOR CREATURES? **Updated**

FOR REVIEW (This Is What We Know):

Conflicts:

  • Ultra Chrome = 32 Frags (per Rancor)
  • Obsidian = 16 Frags (per Rancor)
  • Bronzium 1 = 16 Frags (per Rancor)
  • Bronzium II = 8 Frags (per Rancor)
Frags Needed Per Level For Each Rancor Creature:

    Level. Frags Needed
    1. 32
    2. 60
    3. 90
    4. 130
    5. 180
    6. 240
    7. 310
    8. 400
    9. 520
    10. 680
    TOTAL: 2642 Frags in all or put another way... 83 UCL Crates.
TIME NEEDED TO UNLOCK and FULLY UPGRADE EACH RANCOR CREATURE:

    Currently each Rancor Creature is featured in a one Week Long Conflict on 3 Planets. With this being the case it would take 28 Weeks or put another way 7 Months.

    :arrow: Of Special Note is that Krayt Dragons which are featured in two individual Week Long Conflicts on all 6 Planets. With this being the case for the Krayt Dragon only it would take 14 Weeks or put another way 4 Months.
BUT WAIT... THERE IS MORE...

    Zygna is not doing Weekly Back-to-Back Conflicts just for Rancor Creatures. We now know the best we can hope for as illustrated by the timing (shown here and here) of the last 2 Rancor Conflicts that we have seen so far, is for a Semi-Annual Event featuring Rancor Creatures for 2 Weeks, or put another way, 4 Weeks of Rancor Conflicts per Year.
AND SO... the more "realistic" time to Unlock and fully Upgrade one Rancor Creature...

    Hmmm... Let me see... :roll:
    ... Carry the 1...
    ... multiply by Lunacy...
    ... divide result by the factor of Insanity... :lol:

THE ANSWER IS... 14 Years - for Rancors, and 7 Years - for Krayt Dragon (if the "pattern" holds) - MINIMUM** :o :shock:

AND I ONCE AGAIN ASK... ARE RANCOR CONFLICTS worth grinding for?

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